Re: I Don't Want A Machinist To Modify "My Part" / Why Would A Machinist Need To Modify A Customers Part?

<brewertr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:45:18 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
> <jon_banquer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>In my opinion the people who make this kind of statement are idiots
>>who often show they have no idea how manufacturing works in the real
>>world. The people who make these kinds of statement are morons like
>>Matt Lombard, Joe 788, Tom Brewer, etc. For those who think these
>>worthless idiots have a clue perhaps this video will give you some
>>ideas why a machinist must have the ability to modify a customers part
>>in order to make it.
>>
>>http://www2.spaceclaim.com/LearnMoreNow/ConseptualDemo.aspx
>>
>>Jon Banquer
>>San Diego, CA
>>http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
>
> Still waiting for an answer JON
>
>
> [
> http://3dcadnews.blog.com/3037206/
> I'm a CNC machinist/CNC programmer and it's quite common for us to be
> asked or just expected to modify customers files to help make them
> manufacturable/ manufacturable at a more reasonable cost. No one wants
> to pay us for lots of hours to figure out their design intent and more
> and more customers want the manufactured model to match the designed
> model.
> ] -Jon Banquer-
>
> [
> Engineers who don't upload current files to our Intranet.
> ] -Jon Banquer-
>
> Wait a min. first you said you had to modify customer files, NOW you
> say your company has an engineering department. What exactly does your
> engineering department do?
>
> [
> Perhaps if you had to deal with this situation as often as I do it
> might not be so funny as you tried to work with a low level tool like
> a roll back bar stepping through a ton of features trying not to break
> anything all the while knowing this was taking way too much time.
> ] -Jon Banquer-
>
> Now you have to change customer files and determine design OFTEN, so
> what exactly is your engineering department do while a machinist is
> hacking and whacking controlled do***ents such as customer supplied
> solids?
>
> [
> So Jon, if your statements are true and you really do all of this
> stuff, what exactly does your engineering department do?
> ]-brewertr-
>
> [
> Many shops do, Brewer you're just too ignorant / dumb to understand
> this.
> ] -Jon Banquer
>
> THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING ALL OVER THE NET THESE PAST FEW
> MONTHS JON.  You have been saying "YOU" have to do it. Now you are
> changing your story (lie) because you let it slip that your company
> has an engineering department.
>
> So Jon, if your statements are true, what exactly does your
> engineering department do while you are trying to determine customer
> design intent, hacking and whacking controlled do***ents otherwise
> known as customers supplied models?
>
> Tom

Jon's "engineering" department is busy pulling his head out of either (a)
his ass, or (b) the toilet where he is busy "fi****ng".  I heard they
needed
a pretty heavy duty winch to extricate the poor bastard.