Re: I Don't Want A Machinist To Modify "My Part" / Why Would A Machinist Need To Modify A Customers Part?

Tom - I was joking in the "eng vs. machinist", elbow to the ribs kind of
way 
that I guess did not come across...Our design reviews are held as I 
described, without name calling, etc. and pretty much go the way you 
describe.  I actually enjoy them even though it usually will require some 
kind of changes afterwards by myself.  I'm 38, and I'm always learning 
something new during the reviews, whether it's a trick, or why we're going

to run it on one machine or another....It helps for the next time I design

something and you're never finish learning...Sorry my joke didn't come 
across, but we do joke in the meetings where I occasionally throw in the 
classic "well it looks good on the screen, what's the problem?" :)

IYM

<brewertr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:07:26 -0400, <IYM> wrote:
>
>>...or you go the way we do at my company.  Engineers design the parts,
not
>>the machinist.  However, before said part ever gets to the machinist,
you
>>have to have a design review in which the machining supervisor, design 
>>eng.,
>>and planner/scheduler go over the print.  It is then, that the mfg
>>department has the duty after looking at the print to ask if the eng. if
>>he's had his head up his ass when he designed that (fill in the blank
with
>>undercut, relief, etc.) and "how the !@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 are we supposed to machine that

>>you
>>idiot", and make a suggestion that would be easier, quicker, realistic, 
>>etc.
>>At that point the eng. will let him know why he did what he did, and if
it
>>can be changed.
>
> Sounds like your design reviews are adversarial and IMO not a good
> team building technique.
>
> I prefer questions & suggestions to accusations & name calling,
> something along the lines of:
>
>     We can save money if we increase the corner radius in this
> pocket. What is the largest radius we can put here?
>
>     On those edges, we can save a tool change if it were a champher
> rather than a radius.
>
>     The callout for these ID threads will require special tooling and
> process. We can save money if we increase the drill depth or the
> thread depth callout?
>
> Tom