Re: I Don't Want A Machinist To Modify "My Part" / Why Would A Machinist Need To Modify A Customers Part?

....or you go the way we do at my company.  Engineers design the parts, not

the machinist.  However, before said part ever gets to the machinist, you 
have to have a design review in which the machining supervisor, design
eng., 
and planner/scheduler go over the print.  It is then, that the mfg 
department has the duty after looking at the print to ask if the eng. if 
he's had his head up his ass when he designed that (fill in the blank with

undercut, relief, etc.) and "how the !@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 are we supposed to machine that
you 
idiot", and make a suggestion that would be easier, quicker, realistic,
etc. 
At that point the eng. will let him know why he did what he did, and if it

can be changed.  If it was a customer specified feature, then you can go 
back to them and get it changed if possible...What a concept, eh?   100% 
correct that a machinist does not change a customer part, and also 100%
does 
a eng. not change a customer designed feature without approval to do so, 
whether that was given in advance or not...

IYM

"tnik" <kortjester@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Hk3hk.243704$Gv.239555@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> tnik wrote:
>> Gerald Abrahamson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
>>> <jon_banquer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my opinion the people who make this kind of statement are idiots
>>>> who often show they have no idea how manufacturing works in the real
>>>> world. The people who make these kinds of statement are morons like
>>>> Matt Lombard, Joe 788, Tom Brewer, etc. For those who think these
>>>> worthless idiots have a clue perhaps this video will give you some
>>>> ideas why a machinist must have the ability to modify a customers
part
>>>> in order to make it.
>>>
>>> I know how manufacturing works in the real world.
>>>
>>> That is why I am spending money buying machining work.
>>>
>>> And real machinists make the parts per the print.
>>>
>>> You are a self-proclaimed incompetent boob.
>>>
>>> If you changed/modified any customer parts as you chose
>>> (outside print specifications), you would not get paid due
>>> to the 100% rejection rate. Paying customers would stop
>>> coming to your shop (hmm, is this your real life ???).
>>>
>>> And that would put any place you worked out of business....
>>
>>
>> I agree 100%
>>
>> Many a times we look at a print and say to ourselves 'WTF?' but to
cover 
>> our own *****, we make it to print. now, if its not possible, we go
back 
>> to the customer and ask, but we NEVER change a customers print/part 
>> without having prior written consent..
>
> Oh, and to add to that, if you make it to print, and its wrong, the 
> customer has to float the bill.. if you change it, and the idiots at QC 
> don't know it was changed for the better, you have to remake it on your 
> dime, have it pass QC, then have it get to the guys that will realized
'oh 
> crap, this is wrong' lets remake it..