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Re: Plagarism - Sorted

by "Janes" <djanes@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 19, 2008 at 05:30 PM

"graminator" <grahamew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:b6953aa5-fb75-4044-a375-858a4a0f8501@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you could look at Info > Feature List on some of their parts. If
they've copied a part the feature i.d.s will be the same, even if
they've reorderd them or renamed them etc. The chances of feature
i.d.s being the same are pretty slim I'd say.

I remember giving 3 students a 0 on a computer lab exercise because
they copied the part. It wasn't a big project though.


On Mar 19, 11:09 am, "seank" <cd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Thanks for all the [prompt] responses
>
> New tool on me - Info > Audit Trail clearly shows boths students IDs on 
> one
> file and only one on the other - bang to rights.
>
> Also, opening the files in notepad and looking at the Header info.
>
> For info, this is part of a reasonable size submission from 2nd years,
the
> zero mark I will give will mean they fail the module and they will have
to
> face disciplinary action - so I needed to take it seriously.
>
> Alright!! Plagiarism not plagarism - after 8 years teaching this lot 
> CADCAM
> this is only the 2nd time I've had to use the word!
>
> Cheers, Sean, D&T, Loughborough Uni
>
> "seank" <cd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:frr852$lms$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >I have two students who are denying my accusation of plagarism.
>
> > Whats the likelyhood of two people given the part to model would build
a
> > model independently and produce a modeltree with this level of 
> > similarity?
>
> > Attached image or here:http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~cdspk/index.htm
>
> > Cheers, Sean- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The "copied" issue is well established by the audit trail and the feature 
IDs. Time stamping could also be an aid. Someone completed a part and the 
other copied it. What's unclear is your network security. I've taken
cl***** 
at schools and colleges where it was easily possible, given the appaling 
lack of security, for anyone to copy/steal anything on a network drive.
So, 
unless it can be demonstrated that such copying is impossible, why
implicate 
both students!?! I'm also assuming that the cheat went to the trouble to 
make his look like he'd done a lot of good work by renaming all the
features 
the way they tell you to.

David Janes
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
Re: Plagarism - Sorted
"seank" <cds  2008-03-19 15:09:40 
Re: Plagarism - Sorted
graminator <grahamew@[  2008-03-19 14:28:29 
Re: Plagarism - Sorted
"Janes" <dja  2008-03-19 17:30:49 

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