On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:38:12 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
<jon_banquer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>You sure do. Here are just a few of them:
>Ignorant:
>"Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
>decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
>that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
>after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
>well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
>decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
>out poorly. .... Tom Brewer
Yep like the stopped clock that is right twice a day you were right in
this one case about the big bad CAD/CAM company. And you had to go all
the way back to a post in 1998 to find the one instance where you were
correct.....<G>
>Ignorant:
>"I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
>what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
>advice. See above.
As usual you don't know what you're talking about Jon, big surprise
there.
SDRC gave Artisan & GenMach free to all SmartCAM users with a current
SmartCAM Software Maintenance Agreement (which we were) as the
SmartCAM upgrade path.
>Ignorant:
>Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
>staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
>doing so.
What consequences Jon, your forging more posts and avoiding simple
direct on topic questions to back up your wild claims?
Or would that be where you post under aliases and carry on threads
where you are posting, answering and sup****ting yourself in the third
person?
>Ignorant:
>"I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
>in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
>what he's often like.
It's called being honest and sincere Jon, you should try it.
Here is my full post including the part you cut and pasted above.
[
Michael,
The Internet is great but nothing can compete with talking with
someone face to face. It is easy to write something one way
and have it read completely the opposite. It is not possible
to look into someone's face and know it is a joke, that they
are pulling you leg or what their meaning is.
Michael I believe you, I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy
thing to do when it is in your mouth and your head is in your ass.
I hope you will accept my apology.
Thank you for responding. I enjoyed reading your email response.
I do not believe in conspiracies but felt you were misleading us.
Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you.
I may be oversensitive to SDRC questions. I tried to use the reply
button to answer those who sent me email from SDRC but kept
getting it back as undeliverable. I will contact them by phone next
week.
Thank you for your offer of help. If I can be of help to you I would
be pleased to as well.
I have posted my apology in all areas I remember that I originally
posted to, incase I missed any I am posting here as well.
The only thing worse to me than making a mistake is to not admit to
it.
-brewertr-
]
>Ignorant:
>Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
>or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
>that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
How so Jon? I use CAD/CAM on nearly a daily basis and have for many
years, I deal with change all the time, I make the tools I have work.
Why can't you?
Oh! Maybe because you didn't even know:
1)amount of pallets on your machine, kept saying 12 when it's 11.
2)how many tools your machine held or how many offsets it has.
3)to edit your CAM Post processor to generate good, reliable
g-code for your machine.
4)how to get consistently good code to the controller and having
to constantly edit g-code at the controller.
You even went so far as to brag about your HMC, a high production
machine spent little time producing.
>Ignorant:
>Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
>of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
>Tom Brewer.
I worked in and hired Machinists in San Diego, you haven't. You only
know what you heard. I said it is more likely the people you listened
to had trouble finding machinists willing to work for operator wages.
I asked you a simple question on what YOU felt the going pay rate for
a journeyman machinist is but you continually refuse to answer that
simple question. If you know the subject you know the answer.
What is the going rate for a journeyman machinist in San Diego?
What were the people who say they can't find machinist offering?
>Ignorant:
>Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
>anyone with specific SolidWorks answers.
http://tinyurl.com/3xfso7
http://tinyurl.com/2qwc23
http://tinyurl.com/3aqtct
http://tinyurl.com/2v6dpw
http://tinyurl.com/37hk6o
http://tinyurl.com/2bm98j
>Someone who is not able to
>answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
>modeling.
Am I required to answer every question on Usenet?
You responded, lacking knowledge, experience, with all of 1 month or
less worth of videos under your belt and where you posted enough
parroted buzzwords, plagiarized comments from others and sales blurbs
to keep him busy for a while.
>Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
>now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.
Our company received two seven figure deposit checks recently for
projects & machines I designed.
And you Jon? You still making $17 an hour running a cnc?
Is $17 per hour Journeyman Machinist Wages in San Diego in your
opinion?
>Ignorant:
>Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.
He's Matt Lombard, right?
Or is he the guy with little or no patience for Clueless Buzzword
Kings posing as knowledgeable, expert users where they really have
little or no knowledge of the material & programs they are discussing?
[
Matt Lombard, author SolidWorks 2007 Bible wrote to Jon:
I prefer a rational discussion between people who really use the
software. You prove on a regular basis that you can't be rational, and
you have never said anything that makes me believe you have more than
a passing familiarity with SolidWorks.
-posted - Aug 19, 2007-
]
>Ignorant:
>Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
>SolidWorks Bible:
>"Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."
The question was "Did you read the Authors notes"?
It's a simple question Jon, has nothing to do with what's on the
cover. You obviously don't want to answer that simple question because
it doesn't sup****t your position and you weren't smart enough to read
it in the first place.
Snip from the Authors notes:
"The SolidWorks Bible is intended primarily for intermediate and
advanced users, although there is also some material for beginners."
>Ignorant:
>Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
>hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
>that's Tom Brewer.
It wasn't just simple statements you made. It was you loved or hated
the programs when you didn't know anything about them, then when you
actually tried to use them you ended up changing your mind.
EXAMPLE:
"I don't give a **** because OneCNC looks good." - Jon Banquer - Aug
31 2003
"OneCNC he has delivered on creating a good CADCAM system." - Jon
Banquer - Aug 23, 2003
"OneCNC looks good." - Jon Banquer - Aug 31 2003
"My advice would be to get your feet wet with a bargain basement
CAD/CAM system such as OneCNC." - Jon Banquer - May 7, 2005
"OneCNC has a good product" - Jon Banquer - May 11 2005
"Companies like OneCNC have proven you can be a successful company
without really targeting Auto and Aero." - Jon Banquer - July 30,
2006
"OneCNC needs *major* work!" - Jon Banquer - Jan 14, 2007
"It seems that OneCNC is so bad" "Since I've had to use this piece of
crap" - Jon Banquer - June 30, 2007
"You deserve to get ****ed if you think Onecnc can hold a candle to
any of the packages you named." - Jon Banquer - Aug 19, 2007
>Ignorant:
>Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
>SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
>course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
>you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.
Your the one that said they are comparable, if they are the same as
you say then you were being smart paying $650.00 when you could have
gotten the same thing for only $25.00?
>Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:
>"I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."
And it was one of the best investments I ever made. Less expensive
that VAR classroom training and I ended up with one on one training
for 1/3 the VAR quote.
Only a high school dropout would think paying for an education and
quickly getting up and running efficiently with a CAM program is a
waste of money.
[
I dropped out of high school <snip> and never went back
- Jon Banquer - Dec 28, 2002
]
Oh! That explains a lot.......LOL....naturally you would think
education a waste of time and paying for it a waste of money....LOL
>"FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
>tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
>I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
>Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."
It was true 1998 when I made the statement.
>Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
>yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
>interface problems:
Your normal confusion Jon, my post had nothing to do with the SmartCAM
GUI.
>"The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
>cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
>Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
>way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
>filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
>have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."
The post had nothing to do with the GUI. It was about Freeform and
having thousands if not tens of thousands of machining elements. It
could be difficult picking one or a small group of elements if they
were near each other. And in those days it may have been on a 15"
monitor.
"it's amazing how much better SmartCAM's UI still is." - Jon Banquer -
"SmartCAM badly needs a UI makeover" -Jon Banquer -
>Conclusion:
"Stupid me. I was wrong again." - Jon Banquer -
"Stupid, very stupid. " - Jon Banquer -
http://blog.novedge.com/2007/07/an-interview-wi.html
[
Franco Folini
UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- I had to close this blog post to further
comments and to remove the personal attacks between Jon and some other
newsgroups readers. Before the interview, I made an agreement with Jon
about the style of the interview and the way to handle it. Jon didn't
respect our agreement, posting comments under fake names. Jon's
authentic and fake comments are all posted from the same IP address,
72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was misplaced.
]
"Should keep me from getting any stupid ideas about starting my own
job shop !!!" - Jon Banquer -
Tom
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