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Re: diagrams for stair platforms

by "Thomas V" <thomasLASTNAME@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 15, 2007 at 10:59 AM

Across a language barrier, I am Swedish, I'm lost in some of your 
jargong/techical terms . I do wish there could be some place on the net
one 
could find translations and definitions of proffesional terms and jargong.

Wikipedia/Wiktionary might be usable.

Anyway - I use Triforma and Architecture and model most in 3d and then 
"calculate" the cuts for plans and elevation. The "stair maker" in TF is 
awful and there is a new tool announced for Athens. And Structural have a 
tool for stairs + handrails that is said to be ok for "industrial" stairs.

But a scenario with setting up base data + "rules" for a stair in a 
spreadsheet and having that linked into ustn and "drivinging" the 
3d-geometry, for later TF 2d-"calcualtions",  is a good one. Be it with 
DDD(=dimension driven desing), Feature Modeling or Generative Components 
(even if that probably is to use cannons on mosquitos), or even custom 
linestyles.

Feature Modeling has been around for a while in ustn v8,9. (TOOLS>FEATURE 
MODELING). And you can do amazingly much in 3d with custom linestyles - 
thinking of handrails.



regards /Thomas V



"Ralph Hertle" <zxcvzxcv3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:4712A19A.6040902@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thomas:
>
> Thomas V wrote:
>> Did you consider using DDD or Feature modeling and linking to the 
>> spreadsheets?
>>
>
>
>
> DDD.  . . . . . .  Isn't that dimension driven cells?
>
> I've never used DDD. From the little I know I think that could work, and

> in large industrial and process mfg. projects the number of modified
cells 
> for stair ramps would be nearly 100%. Far less for inhabited buildings.
>
> Can you outline a way to construct a DDD cell for that purpose?
>
> For a 2D elevation drawing of the side profile the main numbers to enter

> would be the fin. floor-to-fin. floor distance, or FFD. For ramps of
known 
> numbers of risers, the fin. elev.-to-fin. elev. distance, or EED.
Landing 
> depth could also be entered.
>
> What is feature modeling? How does one link model features to a 
> spreadsheet? Would the entire stair structure considered as a 2D or 3D 
> model be a single data driven cell?
>
> Once a stair general design has been established the advantages of the 
> linked model would be in the automation of the modifications. That would

> pay for itself in the first 100% change of elevation heights. Making 
> drawings one at a time in scratch style would mean that both the 
> calculations and the drawing would have to be changed for each revision.

> That's weeks of work at a probable rate of $4k per week not to mention 
> that the job captain has to check everything at an even higher rate and 
> order scratch revisions further raising the cost.
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Ralph Hertle
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
diagrams for stair platforms
ut151469 <DukeDB@[EMAI  2007-10-11 14:53:27 
Re: diagrams for stair platforms
"Ralph Hertle"   2007-10-13 07:25:10 
Re: diagrams for stair platforms
"Thomas V" <  2007-10-14 20:56:42 
Re: diagrams for stair platforms
Ralph Hertle <zxcvzxcv  2007-10-14 23:09:18 
Re: diagrams for stair platforms
"Thomas V" <  2007-10-15 10:59:15 
Re: diagrams for stair platforms
lorys <lorys@[EMAIL PR  2007-10-14 10:55:35 

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